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September 03 2008
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Is Judah Forgiven.?


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Judah, is A Person, A Tribe, A Place...!!!

Who is Judah...?

And Why is the Promise to Judah...?

How and Why is he Forgiven...?


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If Judas was forgiven why did Satan enter Him and Jesus calls Him "son of perdition" and "devil"?

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If God is higher than angels and angels higher than Man is then God is higher than both angels and Man - Son of the Most High

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First Off,
The Question is, Is Judah Forgiven.?

"If Judas was forgiven why did Satan enter Him and Jesus calls Him "son of perdition" and "devil"?"

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"devil""
(Where???)

You May Have Your Time Line Wrong.

Satan Entered into Him, Then He (Judas) Repented,
Then Jesus was Crucify,
And Then All Sin Was Forgiven...!!!

And it wasn't Jesus who called Judas "The Son of Perdition"

He Talked of "The Son of Perdition"
But all just asume That's Judas, and that be be true,
But we All are or have Been "The Son of Perdition"  

Not Just Judas, All of Us...!!!

John 17:12
While I was with them in the world,
I kept them in thy name:
those that thou gavest me I have kept,
and none of them is lost,
but the son of perdition;
that the scripture might be fulfilled.

2 Th 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means:
for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed,
the son of perdition;
2 Th 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.


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There's no evidence that Judas repented of his sin towards God but man.

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If God is higher than angels and angels higher than Man is then God is higher than both angels and Man - Son of the Most High

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Matthew 27:3
Then Judas,
which had betrayed him,
when he saw that he was condemned,
repented himself,
and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
Matthew 27:4
Saying,
I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood.

 

What? He Sinned Towards Man?
No, Towards God...!!!

And He confessed This, And his Actions Showed This.
(That He Repented...!!!)


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Matthew 27:5
And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple,
and departed,
and went and hanged himself.

hanged =
G-519. apagchomai, ap-ang'-khom-ahee;
from G-575 and  agcho (to choke; akin to the base of G-43);
to strangle oneself off (i.e. to death):--hang himself.

G-575. apo, apo'; a prim. particle; "off," i.e. away (from something near), in various senses (of place, time, or relation; lit. or fig.):--(X here-) after, ago, at, because of, before, by (the space of), for (-th), from, in, (out) of, off, (up-) on (-ce), since, with.
In composition (as a prefix) it usually denotes separation, departure, cessation, completion, reversal, etc.

G-43. agkale, ang-kal'-ay;
from  agkos (a bend, "ache"); an arm (as curved):--arm.


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Rick

We been through this already and don't want to do it again! I rather post a devotional, teaching or verse from the Bible, then debate whether or not Judas went to Heaven or Hell.

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Is Judah Forgiven.?

The Question concerns Judah..... Not (At this Time) Judas...!!!

Is Judah Forgiven...???



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Very good topic, and very DEEP Spiritually speaking.
Judah is a tribe, yet the figurative points entirely to something far different that imagined. Judah is a place as well, yet figuratively has a very profound meaning that concerns the state of the world today.

In the Book of Jeremiah is the key to the best understanding we can get as to if Judah is forgiven.

God uses Jerusalem in the Bible as an illustration of todays CHURCHS, for it is considered the HOLY PLACE or the place we would go to offer up sacrifices and incense(prayers) for our sins and be closer to God.. God also uses JUDAH as an illustration of those "peoples" within the churches.

Some use the word "CHURCH" as I personally prefer "AS-SEMBLIES" for that better describes the groups of peoples gathered together in separate denominations.
If we are given the understanding that the Word of God is a Parable, "Most every single word", and that a parable is defined as an earthly story with a spiritual meaning, or in the case of the Bible..an Earthly HISTORICAL event or story, with a spiritual meaning, then we can be able to sort out and understand what these things mean.

To skip ahead past the study, I have found that indeed, a part of Judah is forgiven in the end of days,...(a remnant), remembering however that Judah represents those peoples in todays churches... but not all will be forgiven as 1Peter 4:17 would show us.

peace

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