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oftheFather7
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November 19 2005
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Quote: Originally posted by oftheFather7 on November 05 2009
Quote: Originally posted by 14400 on November 03 2009Quote: Originally posted by oftheFather7 on November 03 2009Some of it is literal and some figurative, as I have said before, and it is according to God giving the literal understanding of the figurative, and not men.
Good point..."God Given" and not man....
Heb 8:11
And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least * * to the greatest *.
So why do many still congregate in churches giving their denominational leaders authority over their learning or spirit rather than God?
ANOTHER GOOD POINT!
"literal understanding of the figurative" is the perfect definition to the term "BRINGING TO LIGHT" and BRING TO LIGHT OUT OF THE DARKNESS".
The Word is Christ, and Christ spake in an parable and without a parable spake He not!
The "Literal" out of the "FIGURATIVE" is also called EXPOUNDED TRUTH! and SPIRITUAL TRUTH!
So we can see how it is that God has blinded many to the truth by parable, for it must be God given to understand.
peace
The Spiritual truth of God and Jesus Christ is literally - TRUTH.
You see the things which are seen were not made by that which appears, but from the invisible God, who is Spirit.
Rom.1
[20] For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Heb.11
[3] Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
God given leadership and headship is different than man given leadership and headship.
The Spirit of God within the person God has ordained is the Great Preacher. The Spirit doesn't speak of Himself, but of Christ Jesus.
In other words, it shouldn't be the man that speaks but it should be the Spirit of God, which gives the man the words to say and what to do.
Matt.10
[19] But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
[20] For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
Acts.2
[4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
When does God make a man to understand His Word?
Well, they must be weaned from the breast and the milk.
A babe has no teeth. The babe can't digest meat, and must grow teeth and LEARN OR BE TAUGHT how to walk and talk according to the Word. As the child grows, small pieces of meat may be given to the child. As the child matures and grows up, it eventually can chew and digest the meat of the Word.
Isa.28
[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
1Pet.2
[2] As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, THAT YOU MAY GROW THEREBY:
There are some who don't like to read, and know nothing about the Scriptures but certain things.
And some, if something is too long, will not continue because of the impatience of the flesh.
And some, who do try to read the Word, but get frustrated trying to get past the thus, thous, shalts, and so on.
etc.
A mature person of faith reveals the righteousness of God, to a babe in faith.
Rom.1
[17] For therein is THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD REVEALED FROM FAITH TO FAITH: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Babes and children need to hear the Word and have it taught to them by Spirit led and taught teachers and preachers, and this is why we have shepherds. The shepherd takes his rod and staff and guides them into green pastures/spiritual food, still waters/the Water of the Word and the shepherd rebukes the sheep when they go astray, and watches over them against false prophets or wolves. The Lord told Peter to feed His sheep.
Ephesians 4
[11] And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
[12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
[13] TILL WE ALL COME IN the unity of the faith, and of THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SON OF GOD, UNTO A PERFECT MAN, UNTO THE MEASURE OF THE STATURE OF THE FULNESS OF CHRIST:
[14] THAT WE HENCEFORTH BE NO MORE CHILDREN, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
[15] But speaking the truth in love, MAY GROW UP INTO HIM IN ALL THINGS, which is the head, even Christ:
Romans 10
[14] How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
[15] And HOW SHALL THEY PREACH, EXCEPT THEY BE SENT? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
A preacher must be sent by God.
The Spirit of God teaches those who receive His words, keep His commandments, and desire to hear His Wisdom. The Spirit of God teaches those who apply their mind or heart to understanding, cry after knowledge and understanding, seek and search after His Wisdom more than silver and gold or the things of this world, and who walk uprightly.
Prov.2
[1] My son, IF YOU WILL RECEIVE my words, and HIDE my commandments with thee;
[2] So that thou INCLINE YOUR EAR unto wisdom, and APPLY YOUR HEART to understanding;
[3] Yea, if thou CRY after knowledge, and LIFT UP YOUR VOICE for understanding;
[4] If thou SEEK her as silver, and SEARCH for her as for HID TREASURES;
[5] THEN SHALL YOU UNDERSTAND the fear of the LORD, AND FIND THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD.
[6] For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
[7] He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.
[9] THEN SHALL YOU UNDERSTAND righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path.
Matt.7
[7] ASK, and it shall be given you; SEEK, and ye shall FIND; KNOCK, and it shall be opened unto you:
[8] For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
These who are washed, weaned, ordained, refined and spiritually mature in the Lord, are meet vessels for the Spirit, as living waters, to flow out of their vessel to others.
Heb.5
[14] But STRONG MEAT belongeth to them that are of FULL AGE, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Strong meat is given by Jesus through the Spirit.
Pss.104
[27] These wait all upon thee; that thou mayest give them their MEAT IN DUE SEASON.
Matt.24
[45] Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them MEAT IN DUE SEASON?
Notice the words, due season.
A seed is planted, it dies to the flesh, it lives unto Christ, then the tender baby plant is seen above ground and it must grow into a mature tree. Once the tree is tall and strong, then it bears spiritual fruit in due season unto the Lord.
At the correct time of spiritual maturity, the Lord will give us strong meat.
We prosper spiritually as our soul prospers or grows in the Lord.
3John.1
[2] Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as YOUR SOUL PROSPERS.
We must grow in the knowledge of the Lord.
2Pet.3
[18] But GROW IN GRACE, AND IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST. To him be glory both now and for ever.
We grow and are changed into the image of Christ from glory to glory or level to level.
2 Cor. 3
[18] But we all, with open face beholding as in a gla** the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image FROM GLORY TO GLORY, EVEN AS BY THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD.
We must able to comprehend the breadth, length, depth and height of God's wisdom, which is Christ Jesus, unto the fulness of God according to the Spirit which works in us.
Eph. 3
[17] That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
[18] MAY BE ABLE TO COMPREHEND WITH ALL SAINTS WHAT IS THE BREADTH, AND LENGTH, AND DEPTH, AND HEIGHT;
[19] And to know the love of Christ, WHICH Pa**ETH KNOWLEDGE, THAT YOU MIGHT BE FILLED WITH ALL THE FULNESS OF GOD.
[20] Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, ACCORDING TO THE POWER THAT WORKS IN US,/B]
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I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. John 5:43
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Topic: Literalist
